tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post8773522401159796402..comments2024-03-25T12:21:56.752-05:00Comments on Sweethearts Of The West: 'Dinner in Hades': Outlaws' Last WordsCaroline Clemmonshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14914658854159456335noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-37145588883154641162016-06-14T14:14:34.836-05:002016-06-14T14:14:34.836-05:00Kathleen--Just now catching up on things. I really...Kathleen--Just now catching up on things. I really enjoyed this post. Among my favorite is O'Folliard's last words to Pat Garrett: "Aw, go to Hell you long-legged son-of-a-bitch.” I guess there's some satisfaction getting in the last word.thomasrizzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00762315714546553945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-57535630273260415542016-06-13T20:15:22.948-05:002016-06-13T20:15:22.948-05:00Now there's a great vacation adventure for you...Now there's a great vacation adventure for you: "Come see a real noose -- used to hang real outlaws! Bring the kids!" ;-)<br /><br />As death penalties go, strangling seems beyond cruel to me.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740371055384281988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-69704505011715907762016-06-13T19:33:05.612-05:002016-06-13T19:33:05.612-05:00I haven't watched that show. Guess maybe I sho...I haven't watched that show. Guess maybe I should. Strangling has to be terrible! When we were in Schulenburg, we visited their jail and I'd never seen a real noose before. Sure wasn't what we're used to seeing on tv.Linda LaRoquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16672522522233696282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-26190104528656205742016-06-13T09:58:31.003-05:002016-06-13T09:58:31.003-05:00Did you watch the most recent episode of Hell on W...Did you watch the most recent episode of Hell on Wheels? The army hanged a man by hoisting him from the ground instead of dropping through a gallows' trapdoor. The gallows method was designed to break the convicted person's neck instead of strangling him or her. Although the thought of any form of hanging gives me a an ugly chill, I think the gallows would be preferable to strangling. **shudder**Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740371055384281988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-40294442273422590052016-06-13T09:55:05.669-05:002016-06-13T09:55:05.669-05:00I HAVE seen the most recent images. That's cer...I HAVE seen the most recent images. That's certainly a different side of the Kid. One wonders if things might have turned out differently for him with a slight twist in Fate. "Quien es?" reportedly were his last words, but I thought the quote above was a little more outlaw-y. "Quien es?" just doesn't sound like a bad guy. :-DAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740371055384281988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-55150768003514894482016-06-13T09:51:17.716-05:002016-06-13T09:51:17.716-05:00Glad you clarified that, Celia! I was a little wor...Glad you clarified that, Celia! I was a little worried there for a second. You look so sweet -- but that's exactly the kind of person who becomes a serial killer...except for Charles Manson. He looked crazy from the get-go. Have you ever taken notice of his eyes? He has the quintessential sociopathic stare going on.<br /><br />I've never figured out Tom Horn. He and Deacon Jim Miller were contract killers -- hit men in the Old West. Horn always claimed he killed the boy by mistake. He said he meant to kill the kid's father. This is a defense? He meant to kill SOMEBODY.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740371055384281988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-28104362615795941522016-06-13T09:45:03.346-05:002016-06-13T09:45:03.346-05:00Thank you, Paisley! I really would like to have me...Thank you, Paisley! I really would like to have met these guys...when they were sober and in a good mood. ;-) Surely every once in a while they had a pleasant thought.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740371055384281988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-10595081277033298312016-06-13T09:43:43.496-05:002016-06-13T09:43:43.496-05:00I love a good villain, Kaye. Even Snidely Whiplash...I love a good villain, Kaye. Even Snidely Whiplash in the Dudley Do-Right cartoons was an interesting study in motive and perspective. :-D<br /><br />Hannibal Lecter was fascinating. Talk about twisted genius! Alan Rickman takes whatever character he plays -- usually villains -- to frightening places (sometimes for laughs). He's one of my favorite actors.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740371055384281988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-47848586792957699422016-06-13T09:38:29.565-05:002016-06-13T09:38:29.565-05:00I wrote a post about Mr. Ketchum earlier. It's...I wrote a post about Mr. Ketchum earlier. It's linked in this post. He was the only man ever hanged for "felonious assault on a railway train." I think they were just looking for an excuse to do away with him. Evidently, the man had sarcasm to spare.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740371055384281988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-62288688065995007572016-06-13T09:35:42.186-05:002016-06-13T09:35:42.186-05:00How cool is that, Andrea? Finish that puppy so I c...How cool is that, Andrea? Finish that puppy so I can read it! :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740371055384281988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-68334374873473517102016-06-13T09:34:48.898-05:002016-06-13T09:34:48.898-05:00I'm glad you enjoyed the post, Doris! Kinda fi...I'm glad you enjoyed the post, Doris! Kinda figured you would with your background. It's sad that what remains of these is a bad reputation and, in some cases, cryptic final words. One of these villains, in particular, seems to have been evil incarnate.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740371055384281988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-1848531329675279192016-06-12T18:26:41.847-05:002016-06-12T18:26:41.847-05:00Interesting post, Kathleen. Gotta love those bad b...Interesting post, Kathleen. Gotta love those bad boys and they add flavor to all those western stories. Hanging seems a terrible way to die. Linda LaRoquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16672522522233696282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-76127904831450013872016-06-12T15:37:08.876-05:002016-06-12T15:37:08.876-05:00I meant..I have NEVER liked anything about Billy t...I meant..I have NEVER liked anything about Billy the Kid.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16272417114895975742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-52330665674481116532016-06-12T14:53:43.564-05:002016-06-12T14:53:43.564-05:00A fun read, Kathleen! Loved the images. Poor Billy...A fun read, Kathleen! Loved the images. Poor Billy the Kid. Have you seen the latest picture of him to crop up? Playing croquet in a goofy striped cardigan. I believe his last words before he was shot were "Quien es?"Patti Sherry-Crewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07239195135892487184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-41829641268104320662016-06-12T14:34:10.048-05:002016-06-12T14:34:10.048-05:00All of them...except Billy the Kid...looked normal...All of them...except Billy the Kid...looked normal, didn't they? Dressed well, handsome for the most part, and probably intelligent...except Billy the Kid. We might have been friends with them or invited them to dinner...except Billy the Kid.<br />I have liked anything about Billy the Kid.<br />Tom Horn--now there an interesting, intriguing man..and handsome, too.<br />I read these closely--it's not difficult to believe. And today? We still have modern villains and we all know their names: Charles Whitman, (?)Manson, Clyde Barrow, the mafia bosses, the bootleggers, bank robbers,...on and on. Very sad. Thanks for a precise, concise post. I loved it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16272417114895975742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-69474921700008758682016-06-12T13:33:33.121-05:002016-06-12T13:33:33.121-05:00I'm with you, Kathleen. It is interesting to s...I'm with you, Kathleen. It is interesting to see the real wild men of the west. None of them seemed to be afraid of anything, and certainly not going to Hades. Great post.Paisley Kirkpatrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06401039126457210324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-84812924622673047102016-06-12T13:01:17.427-05:002016-06-12T13:01:17.427-05:00Kathleen,
I do love villains. They're so inte...Kathleen,<br /><br />I do love villains. They're so interesting in motive, life perspective, behaviors, and rationalization of why they are the dastardly individuals they are. I also appreciate a story in which the author is able to make me 'root for/identify with' [whatever the descriptor] the villain (or villain type). Literary examples: Hannibal Lecter and Inspector Javert. Movie examples: Alan Rickman's Sheriff of Nottingham and Hades in the animated Hercules. *grin* Kaye Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13530735658588595790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-44711986128470668612016-06-12T12:30:49.957-05:002016-06-12T12:30:49.957-05:00Dang, Kathleen, using those big fifty cent words l...Dang, Kathleen, using those big fifty cent words like "verisimilitude". I had to look it up. Just in case anybody else is wonderin' what it means, here ya go: verisimilitude:<br />(Noun) a statement which merely appears to be true<br /><br />Now I really liked how these outlaws had the presence of mind to say some mighty funny or smartass things just before they met their maker. I would have been busy bawling my eyes out. I guess that just shows how little regard they had for human life, including their own. I loved all the quotes and pictures, Kathleen. I'm also trying to get the imaginary image of Black Jack's head popping off when he was hanged out of my mind. Ick! <br />Terrific post!Sarah J. McNealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17749991094677728042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-43887338771142802042016-06-12T12:05:30.167-05:002016-06-12T12:05:30.167-05:00aha! Jack Ketchum plays a small part in my WIP, f...aha! Jack Ketchum plays a small part in my WIP, from the time he was up in Buffalo, WY, at the Hole-in-the-Wall.. Good to read his last words.<br />Andrea<br />http://andreadowning.comAndrea Downinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11553961600937196102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-7857437054961049812016-06-12T11:51:54.656-05:002016-06-12T11:51:54.656-05:00You nailed it when you said 'somebody has to t...You nailed it when you said 'somebody has to tell the villains’ life stories, right?'. Having worked with more than a few contemporary 'bad boys', they do have lives that get lost in the 'drama' they created.<br /><br />Additionally, getting the history correct, even it is just a small part of the story, is important to me. I enjoyed this post a lot. DorisRenaissance Womenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09045401344374224512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-20372571658972745152016-06-12T11:28:02.810-05:002016-06-12T11:28:02.810-05:00I completely agree with both, Caroline. You do suc...I completely agree with both, Caroline. You do such a expert job of incorporating your research seamlessly into your stories. I want to write like you do when I grow up. :-)<br /><br />Thank you for your kind words about my posts. :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740371055384281988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-8318221386731885082016-06-12T10:37:04.216-05:002016-06-12T10:37:04.216-05:00Kathleen, I look forward to your posts. Like you, ...Kathleen, I look forward to your posts. Like you, I enjoy studying the history of the era in which we set our books. Another writerly saying is "You can't have a strong hero without a strong villain". Caroline Clemmonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14914658854159456335noreply@blogger.com