tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post4568193908691704739..comments2024-03-25T12:21:56.752-05:00Comments on Sweethearts Of The West: GUEST JACQUIE ROGERS SHARES A SMOKY BIT OF HISTORYCaroline Clemmonshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14914658854159456335noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-36713111199706403322013-05-15T18:11:00.605-05:002013-05-15T18:11:00.605-05:00Thanks to Jacquie, and everyone who has commented ...Thanks to Jacquie, and everyone who has commented about the history of tobacco. <br /><br />Yep, a lot of substance abuse going on throughout recorded human history. And lots of human abuse, too. I wish it would end. Savanna Kougarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698138048388102279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-46895495027480177702013-05-15T16:48:58.001-05:002013-05-15T16:48:58.001-05:00Cheryl, I remember some of the elders dipping snuf...Cheryl, I remember some of the elders dipping snuff, too. It always struck me as being ridiculous and I couldn't figure out why they'd do that. My great-grandpa chewed and that was downright nasty. He carried a coffee mug around with him to spit in. :shudder:Jacquie Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361793932364487636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-45359251976390955612013-05-15T16:45:55.410-05:002013-05-15T16:45:55.410-05:00Troy, you always amaze me--you'd think I'd...Troy, you always amaze me--you'd think I'd get used to it after a while. But earthworms??? Who knew? :) Thanks for stopping by!Jacquie Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361793932364487636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-48279948015943255662013-05-15T13:10:19.815-05:002013-05-15T13:10:19.815-05:00Jacquie,
This is a great post, as always! Very int...Jacquie,<br />This is a great post, as always! Very interesting. My grandmother dipped snuff, and my granddad did too. I always hated to hug her because she smelled of it. Loved this post!<br />CherylCheryl Piersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18116526340220274282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-87570616171867231202013-05-15T12:19:09.498-05:002013-05-15T12:19:09.498-05:00More history: When English ships arrived in Jamest...More history: When English ships arrived in Jamestown to pick up tobacco to ship back to Europe, they threw their ballast overboard to make room for the leaves (the ballast was used to fill the holds and give the empty ship stability.) What did they use for ballast? Dirt and rocks from England. Which contained earthworms. The English settlers thus introduced the earthworm to the North American forests, changing their ecology within a few generations... before that, fallen leaves decomposed much more slowly, leaving the soil much more moist than it is now and making the forests less open.Troy D. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07744762061580915223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-9348661982104244912013-05-14T17:36:47.517-05:002013-05-14T17:36:47.517-05:00Savanna, I'm with you there. Lots of plants a...Savanna, I'm with you there. Lots of plants are both medicinal and poisonous/hallucinogenic. It makes sense that tobacco would also have its uses, even though it's been abused for 500 years.Jacquie Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361793932364487636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-65684759050534161542013-05-14T17:34:10.723-05:002013-05-14T17:34:10.723-05:00Ciara, so that's why tobacco was such a popula...Ciara, so that's why tobacco was such a popular trading item. I didn't know that. The Indians in Idaho mostly smoked kinnikinnick. I'm not sure what plant that is, but I do know the Shoshoni had another name for it.Jacquie Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361793932364487636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-27476485319855055172013-05-13T22:14:40.965-05:002013-05-13T22:14:40.965-05:00Jacquie, if you ever read Edgar Cayce's health...Jacquie, if you ever read Edgar Cayce's health cures, you'll find references to tobacco as a cure for some health conditions. From what little investigation I've done, yeah, tobacco does have medicinal properties. That doesn't negate the overuse and wrong use of it, like any medicine can be abused. *And being severely allergic to secondhand smoke, I'm not a fan.* However, I like to be fair. Plus, I doubt God, the Great Spirit, whatever you call the Divine, would have tobacco as part of the plant kingdom unless there was a GOOD medicinal use for it. JUST MY OPINION, THOUGH! <br /><br />I doubt the baby birds would eat any of the butts since they only take food from their parents. Savanna Kougarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698138048388102279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-89469060707231083132013-05-13T21:30:47.502-05:002013-05-13T21:30:47.502-05:00Great post. I was watching a youtube vid on Cheyen...Great post. I was watching a youtube vid on Cheyenne Indians and one of the comments he made was that the Indians would rather trade or buy tobacco from the whites than smoke their own because the white man had been able to cure it better thus producing a better product. Ciara Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05669829712304962140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-56191981070149236652013-05-12T23:20:17.494-05:002013-05-12T23:20:17.494-05:00Caroline, I've always been fascinated by cigar...Caroline, I've always been fascinated by cigarette holders, the kind they used in the Roaring 20s. My step-grandmother used to smoke with one of those. It was 6" long and had filters in it that she changed. It always amazed me how cruddy those filters were. Yuck.Jacquie Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361793932364487636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-63392802234040186832013-05-12T23:18:08.654-05:002013-05-12T23:18:08.654-05:00Savanna, there have been several Marlboro Men, and...Savanna, there have been several Marlboro Men, and all of them are drool-worthy. <br /><br />As many problems that tobacco has, it does blow me away that it was originally considered a cure-all. I hope the baby birds don't eat any of those butts!Jacquie Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361793932364487636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-21919603207207977282013-05-12T22:16:11.387-05:002013-05-12T22:16:11.387-05:00Jacquie, I loved your post, although I hate tobacc...Jacquie, I loved your post, although I hate tobacco products of all types. My dad died from emphysema from smoking all his life. In a weird twist, though, I collect tobacco memorabilia. My favorite is a 1920's metal daylily whose leaves are individual ashtrays. My brother still smokes, and I hate that. He is very defensive about his habit and insists that no one can tell he smokes. Ha, you can smell him from ten feet away. Caroline Clemmonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14914658854159456335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-57081151218426943432013-05-12T20:15:23.673-05:002013-05-12T20:15:23.673-05:00Jacquie, fascinating blog on tobacco and lighting ...Jacquie, fascinating blog on tobacco and lighting up. Have to say I did always enjoy the Marlboro Man commercials. Of course, his sad end sure didn't sit well. <br /><br />I've never smoked, and now I have a severe allergy to secondhand smoke. I do have to say from the limited research I've done about what is actually put in cigarettes these days, I'd be more frightened about all those chemicals, rather than the actual straight tobacco. <br /><br />I understand tobacco is used as a natural pesticide, and birds put the butts in their nests to keep the pests away. <br /><br />Your cover art is westerny fabulous! Congrats. Savanna Kougarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698138048388102279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-88710922944547748672013-05-12T18:23:48.203-05:002013-05-12T18:23:48.203-05:00Thanks, Celia! I love the SOTW blog and read it o...Thanks, Celia! I love the SOTW blog and read it often, even though I'm bad at leaving comments. (I read your blog, too.) <br /><br />You're sure right about the brand identification. Tobacco companies have always been the best at it.<br /><br />And same here with the families! Nearly everyone on my mom's side smoked and hardly anyone on my dad's side smoked. When I was little, my dad smoked and my mom didn't, so they both went against type. LOL. He quit when I was in first grade.<br /><br />Thanks for the compliment on the new covers. I really like them and they've also done the cover for Much Ado About Miners--I just have to get the book written.Jacquie Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361793932364487636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1822452633282744192.post-67679808436515096772013-05-12T08:31:48.602-05:002013-05-12T08:31:48.602-05:00Welcome, Jacquie--
If only we authors could brand ...Welcome, Jacquie--<br />If only we authors could brand ourselves as well as cigarette makers did--we'd be rich from the sale of our books. Even though I never smoked, I loved those ads..especially the Marlboro Man.<br />In my adult stage, I admired the woman who said, with a cigarette in her hand, "We've come a long way, Baby."<br />We often watch old black and white movies on TCM and AMC, and we're astounded by the amount of smoking that goes on. We all took it for granted.<br />I had many smokers on one side of my family, and practically none on the other. Strange, isn't it? I didn't grow up around smokers at all.<br />I had a brother-in-law who smoked as a young man and father, but quit because he wanted to buy a fishing boat--but he didn't have the money. Each week, he put aside the amount of money he would have spent on cigarettes, and in some short period of time--I don't remember exactly--he had enough to get that boat. He wasn't proud of himself as others were--he just wanted that boat more than the cigarettes.<br />Congratulations on getting your books re-issued, and those covers are great. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16272417114895975742noreply@blogger.com